Parallel Worlds
Claudius and his friends introduced us to a
conception that we simultaneously exist in addition to this life at this
very moment - which we perceive as reality - in additional existences. Introduction by Claudius: We talk about parallel
worlds, a fascinating topic which will if you dive deeper into it not
release you anymore. Your world for you is a physical one. A parallel
world, a parallel incarnation - in which you play a role as well - only
exists virtually for you. If you have the ability you can mentally
travel into this world perhaps in an altered state - but consciously
aware of it - during an Out of Body Experience or in a dream. Cl: There are topics that are elementary
contributions to understand the whole existence of mankind and one of it
are the parallel worlds so that you understand that all that you
experience in this life momentarily is only an extremely small aspect in
comparison to the whole of your being. St: I believe to understand this is
similar to a religious enlightenment. It is something that you rather
conceive emotional than rational. Cl: It is to be seen as a hologram, each world,
each existence is part of all existences, countless existences
altogether which again only represent probabilities. W: I would like to focus on
parallel words and also on time which for us is difficult to understand.
In our last sitting you said that there also is the possibility to
immerge into other realities. Could you tell us more about it, because
this would implicate that there exist more realities at the same time. Cl: Last time we talked about reincarnation or
incarnation into the past, into the 16th century, this was St.´s
question. And I think you mean that I answered the question so that this
is a immerging into another world. W: Which also exists. Cl: Yes, which also exists. I will reach out a bit
further to give you a comprehensive picture. While you sit here in your physical world, you
penetrate – or vice versa – other worlds, parallel worlds, past and
future without consciously perceiving this. Once in a while – that means
not everybody has got the ability – there is the possibility to immerge
into one of these worlds within an altered state of consciousness. In
your wake consciousness it is not possible for you. These worlds you can also call parallel worlds.
But I would only to a limit call past and future parallel worlds. It is
more that you in parallel worlds live through parallel incarnations
simultaneously to the life in this world, whereas both worlds from each
respective view occur real and stay in an interaction. That means you
are interwoven with these parallel worlds and benefit from this without
knowing. This parallel world is so to speak one of the
probabilities of all probabilities that exist, and it was always
possible to visit them in the past as future. As you have for the year
3.000 or 4.000 various probabilities, in which you can travel in an out
of body experience, so was this parallel world and your world already
present in past times and in “future” probabilities. Do you understand
what I mean? W: Yes. Cl: Your world seems very much real to you, but
this momentary constellation around you is only a probability of the
many probabilities that are existing at the same time. W: That means that we would find
countless parallel possibilities to exist. Cl: So it is. In addition past and future have to
be added with their various probabilities. And this is something - if
people are clear-sighted - they can perceive. They are able to look into
one probability in the so called future, and it might be that this
probability turns up and comes into reality. W: Is it possible that the time in
a parallel world, in a different world of consciousness runs differently
to ours? Cl: Not in principal. If the parallel world is
bound to your planet, no. There are parallel worlds outside your
universe where this might be the case. But if you take for instance an
earthly parallel world in the year 3.000 the same rules as yours apply. W: Yes, but I though more in
direction of fundamentally different... Cl: You mean parallel universes. These are totally
different structured. W: And time can be different there?
Cl: Yes, time can be different. W: That what we perceive as effect
that comes before the cause, is this possible in another universe? Cl: You again talk about time. There the effect
takes place simultaneously with the cause, the beginning is at the same
time the end, the end is at the same time the beginning. And in this context I would like for example come
back to the incarnation into the past. I told you it is an immerging
into another world; it is principally an immerging into a simultaneously
existing world which is pervaded by you and the other way round where
the principle effect (present) – cause (past) happens at the same time. W: Which is based on our
consciousness, not possible for us to realize? Cl: You are not aware of it. You asked me if you
can bring into the past the knowledge of today’s time? W: That is right. Cl: This is possible, but not the way you might
think that you step back into the past. Since this incarnation in the
16th century takes place at the same time with your incarnation
momentarily, because of the timelessness there is no going back... And the information of the current time
cognitively flows in, so that in past times there were exceptional wise
people that had the knowledge of today, they were advanced, because they
basically were mentally in contact with the 19th, 20th or 21st centuries
and open for modern knowledge. There is a constant interaction, a mental
interaction, since all information already exists and is at any time
available for all mankind. It is only necessary that a human with his
brain structure and with his intelligence is able to take on board the
information of modern times into his time frame. W: In form of intuition, or how is
it to be understood? Cl: It is a calling up; it is the individual
antenna that makes it possible to intuitively retrieve the knowledge of
the 21st century into the 16th century. The information, the knowledge
is latent equally available for all mankind at the same time. In the 16th century it was generally not possible
for humans to construct an aeroplane, but there were some that already
had the idea, because their brain structure functioned in a way that
they intuitively were able to take on board the information which for
the 21st century is common knowledge. W: They had a vision. Cl: They already had a vision; they partly
pictured images that are for you in your time reality are the most
normal things in the world. The information is available for everybody, but
the Stone Age people for instance cannot cope with information of the
21st century. But principally there is no progression in information,
principally every part of information was available since the beginning
of all times and will be available non-finite. W: There are certain indications
that suggest that reality systems once in a while interact in small
areas that effects from a different reality system invade into our
reality system. Cl: While information out of your time penetrates
your “past”, this is also possible the other way round. W: Are there physical effects in
our system to create that the effect comes before the cause? Is it a
penetrating of a different reality system - tachyons, scientists say,
are running backwards in time what this effect would provoke. Cl: You can call it an infiltration of a different
reality system. This actually is possible, but for the normal educated
human not accessible. W: These effects are only possible
to prove with a great effort. Cl: Yes. I would want you to understand this topic.
If you still have questions, also in connection with
the so called past, then we can clarify this, as far as I can make it
understandable to you. W: It is so extremely difficult for
us to understand that the incarnations that for our understanding have
existed in the past are actually running simultaneously with the one at
the moment. Cl: So it is. It is an interaction between you in
your present incarnation and the one you might have had in the 16th
century. There is a mental interaction in form of a cognitive exchange.
It sounds like a fairy tale. W: Yes, I just try to get a
picture. Cl: But we have to speak a clear language if we
discuss these topics with you, so that you understand that a person of
the 16th century had ideas that are valid and brought into reality in
the year 2000. W: There are some breakthroughs in
time – for example the book “The Vertical Plane” by Ken Webster, 2109 –
where also for us understandable, the 16th century is still in
existence, because Thomas Harden still lived in his house where Ken and
his girlfriend lived at the same time in the 20th century, and they
interacted in conversation. Cl: This for me is the best example, a better one
I could not tell you. W: It is the proof for the
simultaneity in time. Cl: It actually is the proof for it, yes. St: Since there does actually exist
no past and no future because of the timelessness there is no
chronological process, but for us in our lives with time factor there is
a chronological process with past and future. Cl: It sounds crazy, I agree. Perhaps you can upon
what I tell you build yourself a picture. But with the next reflection
you get stuck again. Although all probability worlds exist at the same
time, for your perception a time schedule does exist. W: I think about the actions of
individuals over the course of their lives. You change something, you
build a house for instance or you this or that, all for us perceivable
as sequence. Cl: This house already is altogether in existence.
The information house actually includes various probabilities. W: Yes, you could have built the
house in a different way. Cl: So it is. And in another reality this house is
even built differently. St: To bring it to a peak, the
smallest thing, each twinkle of my eye, all I do or what I don’t do is a
world of its own. Cl: You can see it like that. Everything is
seizable for you, all is latent available, everything that ever existed
and will exist. Every thought is existing, there is nothing
predetermined, and you can choose with your free will how you live in
this life, how you challenge yourself and frame the probability in which
you live. W: I would like to
come back to the many probabilities of live. We make decisions and go
within the many probabilities a certain path. I could as well have
decided to live in Cl: Of course. This is the range. If you would
have incarnated in W: Is there a direct interplay
between the incarnations that all are lived through at the same time? Cl: Yes. W: But not conscious to me. Cl: It is an interaction. This is the reason why
information from a parallel world flows into your life and the other way
round, past and future. W: Consciously? Cl: You are not aware of it. It only happens once
in a while that you perceive it in an alterated consciousness for
example during an out of body experience of a deep meditative state of
mind. St: I did not work up all you told
us in our last discussion. It was quite some information but interesting
about synchronism of time and incarnation in parallel worlds saying that
parallel worlds are equally real as it is our reality that we exist at
the same time in both probabilities. The question might be legal about
how real is matter at all, how real is the picture of our world, or can
you compare it with the function that we create via computer worlds with
a stimulation? Cl: You can see it alike. It is a world within the
world. Within your world you create other worlds, and now you might
question if these worlds for the figures in these computer plays also
reality? No, I would not want to go too far, otherwise I
confuse you, but you are right, this world here is a bit similar to a
computer world. St: If you talk about a parallel
world then you cannot equate it with a possible imagination world, or is
every imagination world we carry around with us also a parallel world,
because there is nothing that does not exist? Cl: The imagination world includes parts out of a
parallel world which you yourself puzzle together in your own
imagination world. But it is not an actual animated world. St: But a parallel world is
animated as it is our world? Cl: Out of the parallel world’s sight it is like
this, but not out of your world’s sight. St: For me I could imagine to live
somewhere else. To live in a parallel world form it seems like living in
Cl: Yes, you can look at it like that if you never
have been in Parallel worlds exist for you in form of unlimited
probabilities. W: What I just think about
representative for this approch is: a parallel world, a Europe for
instance without Austria, is that one of the probabilities? Cl: It is a probability. There it might be an
environment like it was 500 years ago. W: You also could imagine that it
is similar to our present time, only in another configuration of
countries? Cl: Certainly. St: And this world exists equally? Cl: It is for the circumstances there perceived as
existent as for you your world exists and is functioning the same way.
This world results as one possible form out of the actual circumstances
in your life, out of certain actions. If perhaps 500 years ago humans
would have acted differently other European borders would exist. And
this probability is actually available. Cl: It is difficult to understand. I have to bring
it over to you quite explicit, so that you get an idea about these
parallel worlds. If I would tell you that they only exist in your
fantasy because you want to believe in them it would be wishy-washy. And
it is not a dream as well; each parallel world is as real for its
inhabitants as for you your world is real, because you do not at all
have an exceptional position. St: Don’t we also change the worlds
through decisions, via each of our actings? Cl: Your whole existence draws through past,
future, parallel worlds. And with all the influences coming from these
worlds or “times” you are connected in this life und are influenced
constantly and vice versa. W: Practically out of all that
exists. Cl: Out of all that exits, that means when you
have a happy moment in one of the parallel lives it influences you in
this life as well. W: Yes. St: You say that parallel worlds
are as real as for us our world is. Cl: Yes. St: That means also that we
simultaneously exist in hundreds, thousands, in a countless number of
parallel worlds. Cl: How is it phrased in the ZEN? The pupil sits
under a tree and asks his master about the number of lives he still has
to live through, and the master refers to the number of the tree’s
leaves. St: Yes. St: I would like again to talk
about parallel worlds so that we perhaps can build up a model, talk
about possible definitions, so that we can get a better understanding. Cl: A model, do you mean the conception on casual
relation? St: How you may demarcate one
parallel world with the other. Cl: A demarcation is insofar not possible, because
one world is reaching into the other and the other way round; everything
is networked one with another, as I said before, like a hologram. In
each part of the one world is the information of the other world or the
other worlds included. It is a flowing crossover from one world into the
other, without, of course, that you are aware of this. You only might
perceive it in an alterate state of mind. St: Does our consciousness draws
the demarcation between these worlds? Cl: Yes. St: Is it that we are imprinted
with the will to survive, as animals altogether are? Is it the
limitation that we are not able to register other worlds that our senses
are only used to survive? Cl: What the animal concerns is it with its
partial-consciousness in comparison to your full consciousness much more
open in perceiving other worlds. But the animal is not disturbed by
these awarenesses, what would be the case with humans if you would step
into a parallel world on demand. Your life would be so much influenced that you
constantly would be in a dilemma, because you could not cope with the
knowledge of your actions or happenings in this parallel life. The task
of your life is that you in each incarnation follow the respective goal
for this individual life and to reach it. There is no room for constant
irritation coming from a parallel world. It is only important for you to know that parallel
worlds do exist and that there are other forms of consciousness that for
you are possible to enquire, but only in alterate state of mind.
Knowledge does not irritate you, but the insights, to deep insights
while consciously awake would bring your life totally out of order. Cl: Basically everything is available, each
possibility and probability, and even one of you actions creates a new
probability. You for instance go to school – I even could start
earlier, but I start with school – and you learn. Already at this moment
there are thousands of possibilities available in which you can develop,
and each of these possible situations is already in existence. Do you
understand what I mean? To begin with you choose a path way which
already is available. You could go a different path way and would be
challenged by another situation which as well already would exist. W: Yes. Cl: This situation does not get into progress, but
you on your path way select something that already exists as
probability. In one situation you are perhaps a very clever pupil and
therefore develop into a certain constellation which already is on hand
to be a good student. In another situation you develop differently and
might take some other path way into a different profession. All these
possibilities are already exist as probabilities. St: Could you compare it with a
road junction. There are different directions available to go and you
choose one you think is right. Only to imagine countless numbers of them
is difficult for us. Cl: There is a countless number available and this
is why it is so difficult to explain it to you. Cl: I could paint you a picture. You see a house
in the centre, and you see around this house a ray. In each of all the
small rays which creates the big ray, this house is included, in
thousand variations, with a red roof, with green one, with two doors,
with one, with five windows, with one, with trees, without tree, in
thousand variations the house in the centre is available. W: I understand that with all the
possibilities we have available we can develop into all directions. I
can sympathize with that conception. It is a junction where you have to
choose a certain way. Cl: Yes. And every situation on this way until the
next junction already exists. Than there comes a crucial point and that
happens often in your life. Because than you again have to decide if you
leave your present path way and perhaps head back to the path way you
initially have chosen for that life and you meanwhile had forgotten to
go. Not only your wishes are playing a role, but of
course to a certain age also your education, your parents and the
surroundings. But then comes a point when you are able to decide all
alone by yourself. And you cannot give up anymore the responsibility for
your life to some other instance. W: I would like to come back to the
parallel worlds. These many countless possibilities that are available,
do I make a walk or do I stay at home, do I drive with the car or not or
whatever, all this you as well have in a parallel incarnation. Cl: Yes, certainly. W: And still we are all together
one with the other connected? Cl: Yes, because you are multidimensional. Now you
might understand the multidimensionality. You exist multidimensionally. Cl: Certainly, if it is a parallel world that
results out of earthly conditions. W: There are also parallel worlds
that do not function upon earthly rules? Cl: Yes. They are non-earthly parallel worlds. W: Which function upon different
rules? Cl: Which function with different rules. But to
explain this to you is almost - I would say - a dead end discussion. The nearest you understand are parallel worlds
that go conform with your world – with or without Austria, with or
without Germany, whatever – that correspond with your conditions. There
principally exist the same regularities, presumed that mankind does not
totally change the environment, but all in all the cosmic rules are the
same as in your world. Cl: It might be that some people claim that they
were told that they have a certain number of incarnations and that they
with this one have managed the last one. They are often given a picture
they can understand. If you would tell them that they while living this
life exist at the same time endlessly, they would even if they are
occupied with spiritual matters worry. To give them an overall picture
you have to set a limit in explanations. And many are totally over
challenged by the idea of parallel worlds. St: I still have questions about
the parallel universes/worlds and about consciousness. Cl: It is not surprising that you are engaged in
these topics. It was my hope that you will take it into consideration,
and I am not so sure if it was me or you that initiated the discussions
about it actually, but I think I had sent some impulses to you in that
direction in advance. It is a very interesting topic, although it is
very complex and hard to understand. W: It is, I think, a central topic. Cl: It is, as I said before, an elementary topic
to get conscious about the composition, the interplay concerning all
cosmic regularities within your whole existence, within the existence of
all that is. These might be perceived by you only limited, but these
regularities are in existence beyond the barriers set for you. W: Seen in this respect it is a
tremendous extension for our thinking. Cl: It might confuse you on one side, because it
destroys the picture of one step after the other totally. W: Considering that we
simultaneously exist in various forms in various parallel worlds is it
possible to shift over experiences or duties we have chosen for this
life into another life in a parallel world, and if so who watches over
that? Cl: It is an interaction. You for example have –
to make it quite clear – a market chain that is consisting of footwear
stores. In each town you have a branch store in which all the same shoes
are sold. In one store a certain type of shoe is sold better than in
other stores, so that the non-saleable shoes are shifted over to this
store where they find a ready market. It might be a simple example, but it kind of
resembles the situation. If you in this life want to accomplish
something that is not possible because of a certain constellation, but
which is necessary for your advancement in consciousness, it is possible
that it will be carried out in a parallel incarnation if the
constellation is right for it over there. W: This is a nice outlook. That
would mean if you look at it from a superior point of view that we run
through a learning programme that indicates the probability to come to a
good result eventually. Cl: A great probability, you are right. I do not
want to look into the exceptions, but they exist as well. It is a great
probability that if you are conscious about the fact that you besides
this incarnation exist multidimensional this realization will affect all
your other incarnations as well in that respect. W: If you experience a sudden
change in your mood, could that be by all means an impulse coming from a
parallel world? Cl: Yes, unfortunately you are also confronted
with this kind of impulses. W: The other way around as well? Cl: Yes, so it is. W: You are only not aware of it. Cl: It is a close interaction, so that also the
“negative” impulses reach you, not only the joyful ones. You are then
wondering at certain times why you are suddenly fall into a negative
mood, but you also often get a feeling of elation and might not capture
where it comes from.
Cl: …something that you do not inquire the reason
for. W: That’s right. Cl: It is similar to a telephone call when you
within a few seconds are in a devastating state because of the
conversation. And similar it is with the connection to a parallel world,
it is not the telephone line that connects, but the mental bound. You can strain the bow further and go into a
parallel universe where other cosmic laws exist, where the tasks are
different because ot the constellations and various manifestations. But
everywhere the highest principle is love, which is for you difficult to
really define clearly. W: I already was struggling. Love
is the highest principle; could you classify perception beneath it? Cl: Yes, I would do that, because in love itself
perception is as partial aspect included. W: Yes, I can accept that. To reach that a richness of possibilities is
available. To come to recognize love is there a certain number of
lessons, a certain amount of experiences necessary you have to live
through while collecting and which everybody has to undertake? Cl: You mean if everybody has got the same
schedule? W: Yes, in modified form, but
principally with the same schedule. Cl: Yes. I would say it is not a stiff programme.
Because however of the rules, of the cosmic fairness it is the case that
no existing entity, no existing form of life has to contribute less than
others, so that the scheduled programme is according to the local
respective law and conditions the same. W: You said we are a result of
other worlds as probabilities. Is it the case that we then stepped into
something already existing, or is it also that we create something with
this step that was not in existence before? Cl: The information, each individual fragment of
what is possible to acquire, what is ready to be tailored into something
is available. You do not create something new. You put together the
parts of information, the fragments and come to a certain destination or
aim. W: A consciousness, a conscious
being, the perception? Cl: Yes, the perception and for you of course as
well matter, physical forms in this incarnation. In another incarnation
you activate your consciousness and “create” – as you call it - a
different live frame out of the information pieces that are ready
waiting for you to be used. And this world of yours also only is a
probability, a possibility. W: But built upon something as a
foundation, which then allows a further probability to come into
existence, or does the probability already exist an we only activate it,
bring it into resonance? Cl: It is not that there is a so called foundation
that you have a work piece that you bring into shape. It is not like
that. W: That means recognizable? Cl: Principally a thought flash and the
probability are available and are then activated by you. W: It therefore already existed? Cl: Yes. W: That means everything is
available. Cl: As possibility available. It is not easy to
explain creation, and your scientists have a hard time with it which is
understandable. They concentrate too much on visual viewing. W: Yes. W: Does a fatal act affect parallel
worlds? Cl: This is an interesting point. This act might
have impacts, but not that parallel existences are affected the same
way. But the negative energies are picked up and might change the course
of the existence. In a parallel existence you for example experience
a certain change in your life. You are perhaps suddenly a broken person.
You might not know what actually happened, but you suddenly behave
differently, and you probably will make your environment responsible for
it, although you yourself create a negative presence, caused maybe by
interactions with other lives. St: Parallel life means that
another person with a different name with the same I-consciousness I
have in this earthly life exists parallel? Cl: So you can see it. You embody in this parallel
life principally a structure similar to the one in your life over here,
only that this parallel world has derived from a different probability. Cl: All the time we talk about the fact that you
live in different variations simultaneously, and this also has something
to do with the substance of the body. As you appear here there are more
variations of you, just in different probabilities, because at the
moment you yourselves live within a probability. You could as well now live here under a glass
dome, and then you would believe, you and the glass dome are real. But
this glass dome with you actually exists in a parallel world and over
there you might as well talk to Claudius in the belief that what you
have over here is the existence of a parallel world. W: Do you see us in a parallel life
as you see us here? Cl: If I like to and find the entrance, I even can
communicate. But at the moment it is better that we concentrate on our
discussion, because we probably have to let the information get settled
a bit further before we dive deeper into this topic. The parallel world we talk about is not somewhere
in space. W: It is here? Cl: It is here, so that I can simultaneously
gather all that is connected with you, all the probabilities. W: Yes. St: Before we had discovered the
parallel world, we had the concept of a chronological sequence of
reincarnation cycles. Since we have time and space relativized this now
is actually replaced. Now in theory we are in a parallel running
probability world. Does one negate the other, does it replace it, or can
we nevertheless talk about a chronology of sequences? Cl: You as humans anyhow have difficulties to
capture timelessness, because for you the mediaeval times are past, and
after that the next time frame follows, your time span, and the future
is something that comes next. This is the way you perceive it. And for
you this is still relevant. W: We came to the conclusion that a
fatal act affects parallel lives (concerning killings in rage). Cl: It has an effect on everything, even on the
probabilities in the “future”. St: Can we assume that there is a
direct correlation between the big picture of world affairs and the
micro world that facts of both are alike? Cl: Yes, there is a correlation similar to the
micro and macro cosmos. All is connected with one another. And therefore
such an act is an expression of your present times. St: Is it an energetic status, what
term could we use to describe the state we are in at the moment? Cl: It is like an infectious virus that takes over
within the human being. Some are infected and practice violence, because
they are in an uncontrolled rage where they are not anymore able to
control what they are doing, and others use this violence to make profit
out of it, something even worse, because it is always provoking violence
again, and so it is in the small world affairs and in the big ones too. W: It is important for us to
understand that there is a difference between parallel existences and
the various incarnations. Cl: Every incarnation includes
its individual parallel lives. HS: Claudius, I have another
question about parallel worlds. Is it correct that we live in different
worlds at the same time? Cl: Hans, this is also one of Walter’s favourites.
We talked about parallel worlds for weeks, but, I tell you, it is a
never ending story. It is true. Unfortunately, your scientists in this
matter put the spirit side apart. They try to find parallel worlds in a
material way, and they will not find it. Even if these parallel worlds
or universes they look for would exist, they would never reach them.
Mathematically they are so far away that the necessary energy would not
be available, and the whole journey could not be funded. They constantly look for wormholes to make short
cuts to these parallel worlds, not taking into consideration that with
this material world here all other parallel worlds interact, you need
not to travel through universes to find them. It is a state of
consciousness to dive into a parallel world. It is possible, but not physically. With your
spirit you go there, as well as you cannot travel into spirit world
physically. You go there mentally or you have a so called “Out of Body
Experience”. That means you can with your spirit mind or out of
your body visit a parallel world. It might look the same as your
material world here, but perhaps people talk differently. You might not
understand them, although everything looks earthly, the language is not
earthly. So there might be slight differences. But you yourself live in parallel worlds as a
possibility, as you would say in German as Wahrscheinlichkeit. W: Probability. Cl: Yes, probability. For every of your
incarnations there exist probabilities in parallel worlds. It is all in your mind. HS: Could it be I personally
experience things in a parallel world which happen in my dreams? I
remember them, but they don’t fit into our surrounding here, they are
completely different. Cl: Yes, of course. HS: It comes to my mind as a dream. Cl: You have to train yourself. It is the same
with an Out of Body Experience in your conscious state, and then you
know it is not a dream. But sometimes you have the OBE in your sleep
state. You can train to realise what it is by differences. When you are out of body and you are able to
float, you do not have to walk on your feet, and you realise you can go
through a wall, then it is an OBE. If you bang against the wall it is
only a dream. This is an indication. A visit in a parallel world is similar. You do not
necessarily have the feeling your body goes on a journey, but your mind/Geist. W: Spirit. Cl: Yes, spirit. And when you touch this world you
might have funny experiences. You perhaps realise: these people know me,
I know them, but there is something I can’t recall. You are drawn to
this world, but you are at the same time drawn back. You know what I
mean? You went into your parallel existence. And I tell
you, it sounds perhaps mad, but it could happen that you interchange.
You as Hans here go with your consciousness into your parallel existence
and this guy Hans there or whatever he or better you are called there
dives into your consciousness over here. HS: It is an interchange. Cl: Yes, an interchange, and nobody will notice,
because this parallel incarnation is anyhow connected with you. So
unconsciously by everything happening there you in this incarnation will
be influenced. It is not a strange thing really to interact with
this “other” person. Only there is one problem, you cannot put things
together as you think: I know everything, but there is something I just
can’t recall, something is drawing you back to this incarnation where
you belong with this consciousness. Cl: Is this that what you mean? HS: Yes, yes, in this direction,
yes. I experience things in dreams that are very real,
but I only know, I have not experienced them here, but I truly
experienced them. Cl: These experiences are not really bothering
you, you can accept them? HS: Yes. They are very nice. Cl: Touching a parallel incarnation, everything is
possible. There is nothing in this world, in this universe that is not
possible. A: (Adelheid) Well, while we are together with you
in this sitting, your problems are already solved, you have handed them
over into a parallel life. W: Well, as long as I am unaware of
the effects. A: So Walter in its parallel life has to carry the
burden with the problem you handed over. W: Perhaps I also handed over to
him some good ideas. A: But besides that it happened as well the other
way round, when Walter in a parallel life did not want to bother, he
sent the problem over to you. E: Curious about how Walter here
will handle it. W: I am willing to believe that. He
probably shuffled quite a bit over lately. (amusement on both sides) A: Have a nice evening. WaS: The whole existence is made out of
probabilities. The original source was not matter, it was spirit, you
would say illusion. Because there is no beginning and no end,
everything was always in existence and will be forever. This is
something that not all entities in spirit world understand, but we have
the information available. 2109: A for us of course special challenge was to
connect two parallel running worlds with a great time difference between
them, and in addition with physical and material impacts. (The Vertical
Plane/Webster) W: This afternoon we had a
discussion within the circle about parallel worlds. What Karin read in
Fred A. Wolf’s book is similar or almost partly identical with your
implementations. Is there a constant process of progression, is it
something that grows, or is it again only a matter of awareness? Cl: It is the awareness, because principally there
is nothing that grows, because it already exists, it only seems to grow
for you, but it only expands within the given range. I understand that
you have great difficulties to understand this, but on the other hand
side it is a challenge to work on these topics. It expands your
consciousness enormously and your spiritual awareness. What I tell you about parallel worlds has directly
nothing to do - only figuratively - with physical equations, with
quantum physics. What I tell you is independent from the scientific
view, although this scientist (Fred A. Wolf) fortunately considers both
sides. This is the reason you find it corresponding with what I tell
you. W: You approach it more from the
consciousness side. Cl: Certainly, that is what I mean. In this case
it is confirmed by the physical, even the geometrical, mathematical
approach, by a different view. It always depends on the scientist who partly does
not miss out the spiritual component which is important to make it a bit
more understandable to you. W: Yes, the more we are engaged in
these topics the more our feeling and understanding grows. Cl: You have to understand that even in spirit
world not all spirits are interested in parallel worlds. Only if you
have entered a certain consciousness level things like that an open for
you. PL: And if I have something running
parallel, I just imagine a team with horses that pulls a cart. If the
horse on the right side does something wrong it will create a chain
reaction. And I imagine that this applies also to our parallel
existences, a situation we can as humans with limited senses not
capture. Now I get the picture about what you said earlier about the
transfer of problems into other worlds. Cl: You have given a very good example, the team
of horses in front of a cart. So it is. W: If I am entitled to decide
something in this incarnation, my counterpart in the parallel existence
- perhaps No. 27 – thinks he as well is entitled to make a decision.
Then my decision is only the result of a collective decision. Cl: Yes, of course. But it depends on how strong
you defend your decision, it might be that at times your decision will
push through, but you are not aware of the exact procedure. You are part
of the network of your incarnations; you are even involved in a network
including all humans. W: Is it partly also the interplay
within the parallel incarnations that influence decisions? We had a
discussion about that before, I know, but from where do the thoughts
actually come from? Cl: Yes it is like that. You make a decision at
this moment that you reject in the next moment. In this case it might be
that somebody has intervened, but you are not conscious of it. W: Something the other one is also
not aware of? Cl: The other one also probably is not aware of. AE: (Albert Einstein) Well, I would like to answer
the question in so far that any incarnation -taking place by own choice
- equivalent to human earthly conditions here on this planet and in
parallel worlds are virtual probability worlds, always of course seen
out of the respective view. If we consider that spirit initially decided to
adopt physical structure we have to assume that this was basically done
with free will. The question concerning free will incarnation on this
planet I would answer with yes, in regard to other structures it would
be only speculation. W: Well, many thanks. W: About Lucid Dreams? AE: … lucid dreams, in which you are aware of
being able to change an action sequence are the dreams in which you have
probably entered into a parallel incarnation, because you are not only
dreaming at that moment, not only work up the every day experiences or
problems, but you emerged into kind of parallel world where you act with
awareness. Cl: The planet you are incarnated on provides all
the possibilities to take on board: negative aspects, but also positive
aspects to find the best way to live a content life.
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